tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post6596068417426078414..comments2023-12-24T05:04:37.381-05:00Comments on The Train of Thought: This Week in TibetJJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02082265494052859780noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-71249491595038252842010-02-20T14:37:06.082-05:002010-02-20T14:37:06.082-05:00Niko- Thanks!
Anon- Hahah I actually did wonder i...<b>Niko-</b> Thanks!<br /><br /><b>Anon-</b> Hahah I actually did wonder if that had something to do with it, I guess being an extremely likeable, articulate representative of a non-christian religion doesn't win you many points with some people. Still, he goes out of his way NOT to convert people, so... it is a mystery.<br /><br /><b>JJ-</b> like we were saying, this reads like a lot of the stuff we read in shafqat classes. i hope enough people are slamming it that the dude gets taken off the tibet beat in the future.<br /><br /><b>nimsofa-</b> i would say that one of the most analogous current situations to china/tibet that i'm familiar with is the israel/palestine conflict, actually. settler colonies... settler colonies never change.<br /><br />other modern colonial-tinged misadventures include the war in iraq, which I think we've fairly explicitly condemned on The Train.<br /><br />your comparison with the native american genocide is spot on, and i highly doubt that the 19th-century equivalent of the Train supported it. however, unless we invent a train time machine I don't think anyone here will get to play a role in that. <br /><br />clearly huge repercussions of that conflict echo on through today, but in our lifetime i'm not aware of anything that approaches what the chinese have done to tibetans.<br /><br />which brings me to the last thing- tibet/china is something i'm highly familiar with. i haven't worked with or studied native american issues since school. if any train writers (or you) want to write up a big effortpost on the modern situation, i'm sure it would be well-received here.J.N.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13390940116612963160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-38954159662574792822010-02-20T13:59:02.430-05:002010-02-20T13:59:02.430-05:00@jj you are right. i am not using the word correct...@jj you are right. i am not using the word correctly. perhaps i should say that he is being extremely ironic with his outrage against china because he is asking for better treatment of Tibetans by the Chinese while Americans are doing the same thing to the Native Americans with little or no public outcry. i think it could be equally equated to asking for the nuclear disarmament of North Korea while we still have active nuclear weapons or maybe like being an animal rights activist who eats steak every night. I am not sure. <br /><br />What I do know is that the whole article, although I agree with its reasoning, just did not sit well with me. If you can understand how our government is not an evil empire in its oppression of a people then shouldn't you be able to transfer that reasoning to China and the actions it takes against the Tibetans. I mean, could you imagine a world in which today the Native Americans' culture had a figure-head with same kind of political influence as the Dalai lama. I think that would mean two words for the US right there: game changer.nimsofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15175804716702378601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-10532378433429859382010-02-19T16:50:36.748-05:002010-02-19T16:50:36.748-05:00That newsweek article is absurdly bad. It reminds ...That newsweek article is absurdly bad. It reminds me of a lot of articles written about Iraq circa 2004-5. It's like everyone went to a "let's write like a 1890's Englishman" class or something.<br /><br /><br />@nimsofa everything you say about our treatment of Native Americans is true.<br /><br />Just not sure how that makes JN a hypocrite though...JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02082265494052859780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-77506475605412011262010-02-19T11:45:56.249-05:002010-02-19T11:45:56.249-05:00@ J.N. this just seems incredibly hypocritical of ...@ J.N. this just seems incredibly hypocritical of you condemn China for its actions. I am not at all in support of what China is doing. I believe it is wrong as well. However, I guess, what I mean is I wish that there was a simple analogy in the format of an SAT question that would convey my meaning. Oh wait:<br /><br />China : Tibetans<br />The United States of America : ?<br /><br />Native Americans! I know you mention the comparison of tactics from the days of colonization in your article but how is the situation between the US and the Native American today different from that of Tibet and China? should I assume you mean the lack of direct violence against their people or the unfulfilled yet contractual made promises of our government. I mean we did promise them prosperity and we are only quieted subverting what is left of their culture. But you know what fuck it.<br /><br />@ China. Fuck you. You think can destroy another people just because you have better weapons and a larger army, and a culture based on violence and conquest instead of peace, understanding, and a reverence for nature. well, lesson learned over here China. you can only push a people so hard before those people give in, become stereotyped by political propaganda, and are lied to and left to fend for themselves in an unrelentingly arid area in the midwest. So enjoy the party while it lasts because when the Tibetans are gone who will cry on the side of the road at garbage thrown out of a passenger's window. No one! that's who!nimsofahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15175804716702378601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-12691890042370916592010-02-19T11:07:54.521-05:002010-02-19T11:07:54.521-05:00the unfavorable impression might be due to the fac...the unfavorable impression might be due to the fact that he has not yet accepted the lord jesus christ as his personal savior. but it is not too late. act now by calling this toll free number: 1-800-555-TBAG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8785387207570374478.post-17363710460204591202010-02-19T10:08:41.379-05:002010-02-19T10:08:41.379-05:00great post!great post!DJ FUCKING PRETENTIOUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01505716875626887040noreply@blogger.com